This is like a little tiny reservoir of water… and anything that comes in creates great commotion and tumult. A great devotee – Param dristan nivartate …

Vishaya vinivartante nirahahar

Because his consciousness is merged (0:24) into the ocean of Krsna’s beauty, Krsna’s qualities, when these desires and thoughts coming to our mind (0:35 - 0:46).

Q: It seems (0:48 – 0:53), Krsna is saying Maharaj that a pure devotee transcends the three modes of material nature. Even after transcending three modes of material nature it is applicable? Or he doesn’t transcend in this world?

Maharaj: No, he transcends, but transcends means he is not affected. Doesn’t mean he does not experience those things. They all come. Just like the ocean. The ocean transcends the rivers because it is so full he doesn’t care for them. But, he still sees them, witnesses them, but doesn’t care for them. Param drishta nivartate… because he is tasting something so much greater that he doesn’t care for these things. Prabhupada gives the example that hog is eating stool, we eat nice halwa, we don’t care for stool anymore... right? If we have never tasted halwa, we’d think stool is all nice (1:40:1:49). So these things may be there and we see them and you will be …(1:49:1:56), but we don’t care for them. We neglect them.

Q: Even in the spiritual world, the thoughts will come … (2:06 :2:11)

Maharaj: In spiritual world there is nothing that will induce those thoughts. In material world everything is there to induce those thoughts. But because we are so much fixed in Krsna that we transcend them, means we are not affected by them. We can easily be above them. They are there. And In the spiritual world there is nothing to induce such things. Everything is Krsna. Everything and ….. (2:30:2.50) . There are different levels of pure devotees too, different levels of pure devotees. Ha.

Q: So is it something like a man sitting on a street and watching life going by? He is not affected. He is just coming and going. Similarly thoughts, he is observing as if he is an external person. Thoughts come and go but he is not disturbed by them. Is it something like that?

Maharaj: Hmmm. That’s more like a gyani. He is trying to be like that. A devotee is so busy in Krsna’s devotional service, so busy tasting the sweetness of His names, that when these thoughts come, he just doesn’t have time for them. Ha! Ha! Ha! He has no attraction for them. He sees them go by. But he is not just sitting on the side of the road watching them go by. He is busy. Thoughts are coming by and obviously he notices them. But he is too busy, he is too much absorbed in the higher taste of bhakti. These thoughts are … (3:58:4:02) he is not just sitting watching them. They are coming no matter he just doesn’t care for them. Just like Haridas Thakur… when he was sitting in his bhajan kutir, … (4:14:4:20) an then that prostitute came. She was exposing the private parts of her body in such a way to seduce him. And what was he doing? Obviously the thought came to his mind. How could it not? … (4:34:4:38) your senses and your senses provoke thoughts. Right? Ha! Ha! Ha! But he was so much immersed in tasting the infinite bliss in Krsna’s name that he saw but he didn’t care for it. Didn’t have any attraction for it. He was too busy with Krsna. He was so much immersed in the divine beauty of Krsna that this lump of flesh and blood, although it was there, he just neglected it.

Q: Maharaj, first the object is there or the thought first comes? If we see something then only the desire comes our or first the desire comes? (5:10:5:25)

Maharaj: Everything is based on our desire. But Maya provokes these desires through the objects of the senses. The idol mind is a devil’s workshop, unless our mind is fully engaged in the higher activities of Krsna consciousness, then we’ll definitely, even Vishwamitra Muni… Vishwamitra Muni was sitting by the side of the river watching his thoughts go by, but because he didn’t have the higher occupation, when Menaka came, the hungama arose (5:58:6:02). (Laughter). He was not able to control himself. So this is the impersonalist school and yogic school is like this, just sitting and watching them go by and just neglecting them, just not giving them any time (6:10-6:14) no matter what. But ultimately, you can’t keep doing that because the soul is looking for pleasure. 6:20:6:30. afaf